Why Healthcare Is Failing Us: Peptides, GLP-1, NAD+ Therapy, and the Future of Longevity With Daniel Rudyak from ReadyXR

Why is modern healthcare still failing millions of people, and what can we do about it? With Daniel Rudyak from ReadyXR
 In this episode, Daniel Rudyak (investor, operator, and co-founder of ReadyRx) joins Jack to break down the real drivers of longevity and why preventative health matters more than ever.

Daniel shares his powerful personal story: supporting his father through MS and cancer, navigating his fiancée’s misdiagnosis, and witnessing firsthand the limits of a reactive healthcare system. This experience inspired him to build ReadyRx, a national longevity platform focused on peptides, GLP-1s, NAD+ therapy, personalised supplementation, and data-driven health insights.

 You’ll learn:

• Why our healthcare system keeps missing early warning signs
• The truth about GLP-1s (who should use them, common mistakes, and long-term consequences)
• How peptides and NAD+ therapy fit into longevity
• Why stress is silently destroying people’s health
• What Blue Zones get right about community, diet, and healthy ageing
• How to use data, wearables, and tracking to prevent disease before it starts
• The future of personalised health and AI-driven medicine

 Whether you’re interested in longevity, biohacking, GLP-1s, or simply improving your quality of life, this conversation will give you practical, clear, evidence-informed insights you can apply today.
 
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Chapters

• 3:50 Dad’s MS & cancer: seeing the cracks in the system early
• 9:40 Blue Zones, community and redefining longevity as healthspan
• 18:00 Food addiction and the “light-bulb moment” trying GLP-1s
• 28:00 Stress really does kill: support systems, loneliness and coaching
• 38:00 Labs, wearables, CGMs and AI-driven personalised medicine
• 52:00 NAD+ 101: mitochondrial energy, aging and how to actually take it
• 1:02:00 Peptides, black-market risks and why there’s still no shortcut past the basics

Transcript

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Jack Graham: Daniel, thanks for coming on the podcast.

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Steven Rak: It's my pleasure to be here, thanks for having me.

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Jack Graham: I'm excited you're here. I've been diving into what you've been doing, all your content, and what you've been doing with ReadyRx as well, and your story as well, so I just wanted to thank you for your time, but also your authenticity and your passion for what you're doing.

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Jack Graham: Like, not… again, we'll dive into your story during the podcast, but not many people… well, I don't know anybody that has gone through hardship like you have, like.

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Jack Graham: People around you getting sick, all that sort of stuff, not being able to get the help, and then deciding to take action and creating a company so you can actually provide that help to others, so others don't have to go through that.

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Jack Graham: So, again, like, just the authenticity of your business, of you, and your passion really just comes through. So, thank you.

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Steven Rak: I really appreciate that. Yeah, you know, 2020 hindsight, I would say that when you're going through it, you don't always expect a positive outcome. You never know, kind of, what journey you're embarking on. And to…

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Steven Rak: be here on the other side of that, it's very rewarding, and I'm grateful that you say that, but of course, for any entrepreneur going through it and choosing to make a big life pivot.

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Steven Rak: And take on a big challenge.

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Steven Rak: And that never plays out immediately, right? Like, it took many years.

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Steven Rak: That, it's rewarding. These moments are rewarding because you don't see that silver lining when you're in the throes of everything.

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Jack Graham: For sure. So let's talk about what led up to you taking action to create ReadyRx. Like, tell us your story.

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Steven Rak: Yeah, I would say my history with health and healthcare dates back to when I was around 12 years old. My father was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, and

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Steven Rak: He started having his motor functions degrade, and that was a very difficult thing for, you know, any child, you know, a son to watch.

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Steven Rak: Especially, he was a very big figure in our lives, and…

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Steven Rak: it was, you know, he was kind of on top of the world, and we aspired to be like him. And to see someone very helpless in that position is very transformative.

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Steven Rak: So, and there's just… and at this time still, there's nothing that can be done.

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Steven Rak: Parallel tracking, about a year or two later, he was diagnosed with cancer.

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Steven Rak: And, it was cancer of the lung. He was told that they caught it, they would operate on it, and eventually, if it didn't come back, if the tumors didn't grow, and,

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Steven Rak: Yeah, they gave him about 5 years.

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Steven Rak: then he would be in good shape and have a new lease on life. They operated, the operation was successful. Five years later, we get a scan, see nothing.

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Steven Rak: We're celebrating. We're excited, and that's, you know, although he's still struggling with multiple sclerosis, we know we have many years left with him.

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Steven Rak: About half a year later, he gets another scan, and he's metastatic.

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Steven Rak: So these are the yo-yos you…

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Steven Rak: deal with in the healthcare system, because we use a lot of subjective information and pattern matching, and because I've seen this so many times, this is how it must be. That's the nature of healthcare, period.

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Jack Graham: Hmm.

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Steven Rak: and… One thing that I don't know…

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Steven Rak: that it's done well and handled well is, well, you're articulating these messages and the conceptualization of that to humans, right? So, you can imagine a kid

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Steven Rak: Hearing my dad is not going to have cancer, he doesn't have cancer, and then 6 months later, oh, we were wrong, and that timeline that we established probably shouldn't have been established in the first place.

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Steven Rak: So that was… that was difficult. I chose to pursue my university.

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Steven Rak: studies in Los Angeles and stay local for my dad at the time. And we definitely were told that he was going to pass from this stage 4 metastatic cancer.

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Steven Rak: As it evolved, he was fortunate enough to get in some…

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Steven Rak: Trial therapies, and in those trial therapies.

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Steven Rak: We got this other kind of crazy news, hey, you know, it went from, you are… you have a finite date, you will… you will be passing, to we don't understand what's happening, it's not growing, it's static.

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Steven Rak: And once again, party mode.

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Jack Graham: Hmm.

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Steven Rak: And so, we couldn't have been happier. It was an incredible moment, and going to these, you know, chemotherapy sessions with him and going through all this is tremendously draining. I mean, I don't… it sounds selfish when I say that, but it's draining on your family, yet alone, can you imagine being the one going through it?

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Steven Rak: And it was about 3 months after we were told that he's no longer has active cancer, that he passed away.

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Steven Rak: So, that's one experience, right? I will say with my fiance, she went to two of the most exemplary hospitals in the United States, in Los Angeles.

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Steven Rak: was told that she has a viral infection to go home, and that she'll be fine. Two days later, she effectively was still feeling tremendously unwell, couldn't keep anything in.

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Steven Rak: And thank God we had a friend who was a doctor who said, no, no, no, you're going to this other hospital, and you're going to force them to get a scan. She goes through the process. They said, this is a viral infection.

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Steven Rak: You should go home.

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Steven Rak: And we said, no, no, no, we're gonna get a scan. We get a scan.

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Steven Rak: And they said, look, we're so sorry, we need to apologize, your appendix burst, you were septic, this must have happened two days ago, we can't see anything, we need to clear this out and get you an emergency surgery.

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Steven Rak: You just told us to go home.

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Jack Graham: Yeah.

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Steven Rak: You know, it's, it's,

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Steven Rak: But these stories, they happen all the time, right? This is the nature of healthcare, it goes back to being, look, rules-based, I've seen this XYZ quantity of times, this is how it goes. For them, the logic was, I pressed on her stomach, she didn't scream. For that reason, it couldn't be a burst appendix.

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Steven Rak: Well, they were wrong.

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Steven Rak: And…

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Steven Rak: It was traumatizing, and by the way, that lasts for a very long time. You don't just, like, get a surgery, get better, but it is a very traumatizing experience.

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Steven Rak: what I realized in all of these experiences that I've had with healthcare my whole life is.

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Steven Rak: Everything is quite subjective. It's not informed, but furthermore, we really take an approach that's

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Steven Rak: reactive to healthcare. I'm sick, here's a band-aid, or I get hurt, here's a Band-Aid, I'm sick, here's a pill, and you never really get to the core of, well, why am I sick? What can I do to stay better? And that was what we embarked on a journey to fix, is really focus on

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Steven Rak: Preventative health? And what can we do to enable people to live longer, healthier lives, be more informed?

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Steven Rak: And make better decisions.

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Steven Rak: that's… that's the mission. Period. Flat stop. And I, you know…

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Steven Rak: It was… it was a big departure, going from working, you know, a job and having something sustainable to…

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Jack Graham: you know, leaving all of that and just saying, I'm gonna… we're gonna tackle some major issues here.

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Steven Rak: But we're so excited, you know, that we did it, and the journey was a spectacular one.

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Jack Graham: Yeah, 100%.

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Jack Graham: So, again, like you just said, it was a big decision to go tackle this

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Jack Graham: you know, big, like, what you're trying to change and what you're trying to do is pretty massive. I know there's probably differences between Australia and America, but I reckon they're very similar.

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Jack Graham: And I was thinking about how somebody would approach it here, and just to even thinking about approaching it would just be… my mind just explodes. So, how did you have the confidence, or like, what made you, again, take that step out of that comfortable job into ReadyRx?

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Steven Rak: I have the most incredible life partner who is so tremendously supportive. That's step one. I had great…

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Steven Rak: incredible co-founders who were struggling with either diabetes themselves and have been subject themselves personally to how the United States healthcare system, the FDA, food, etc, has

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Steven Rak: caused epidemics.

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Steven Rak: To folks that have, generally, and another partner who had Effectively seen his father, who…

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Steven Rak: is one of the most remarkable… was one of the most remarkable human beings suffer with Parkinson's.

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Steven Rak: And so we were all mission-aligned. I will say that there's just no world without my life partner and my business partners that I would have been able to do it. It's just not possible. Because…

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Steven Rak: there's so many nights in which you're so stressed, you don't know why you're doing what you're doing, you don't see the end of the light at the end of the tunnel, and having that support and being in it with someone and a group of people reinforces why we're doing what we're doing. So, look, I would say

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Steven Rak: I would love to say that it was all me, but I just know that's just not the case, and I… it's a… and for any entrepreneur out there, having an incredible support system is the moral of the story. I think it's really tough… being an entrepreneur can be really lonely, and it's really tough when you don't have those people there to support you, throughout your journey.

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Jack Graham: I love that. I've had many guests on recently talking about environment, and the environment you're in will help you achieve whatever you're trying to achieve. And that just goes to prove, like, people around you is just one big thing.

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Steven Rak: Yeah, I think that you get motivation and energy from those that are around you, choosing the right people to be around you. You know, I would say that I grew up with abundance.

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Steven Rak: being kind of more the priority. So, how many people do I have around me? Not the quality. And I think this is just a human nature thing. As you evolve, as we get older, we really focus on

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Steven Rak: How…

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Steven Rak: tangible, how meaningful are each of those relationships, and you really invest on those… into those very specific relationships. It's not about what my network looks like, but it's… it's those people that you hold close that will be there for you always.

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Steven Rak: I think this just naturally happens as we age, that we tighten the herd and make sure that you have the right people around you. It's such an important thing. Not all the… you know.

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Steven Rak: we look into Blue Zones a lot, right? So, we're tackling healthy aging, and that's not just

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Steven Rak: highest grade supplementation. That's not just…

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Steven Rak: working out and sleep, and healthy habits, and understanding your genetic markers, but it's also all of the external factors. So the food you consume.

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Steven Rak: the family that's around you. And so I think that as we look into Blue Zones and, you know, areas of Italy, you have Japan, and I think we have some in California as well here.

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Steven Rak: it's really important, I can't stress how important it is to have a real community in your life.

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Steven Rak: When thinking about longevity and living a healthy life.

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Jack Graham: Yeah, I 100% agree, and…

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Jack Graham: No, it's not about just living longer, it's the quality of life as well. Like, you don't want to end up in, like, living for 10 years in a bed, not being able to move, and not being able to communicate with the people around you. Like, you want to live a good quality life for as long as possible. And I think

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Jack Graham: Excuse me.

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Steven Rak: with someone, and they're like, well, longevity, so, like, I want to live to 130.

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Steven Rak: And… I said, I appreciate your view on longevity.

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Steven Rak: that's not my view of longevity, right? It's health span. It's, you know, if I'm tied to a ventilator at 1, you know, from ages of 110 to 130, is that any way to live? No, I want to… you have to be thinking about aging in a healthy way, such that

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Steven Rak: at those potentially longer chronological ages, you're actually cognizant, happy, and mobile, right, and functional, so you're spot on. I mean, I couldn't share…

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Steven Rak: I completely agree with what you're saying, and share your views.

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Jack Graham: So what is… with… when it comes to longevity, like, we're talking about Blue Zones, like, community, all that sort of stuff, what are people missing? Because again, like you said, it's very common that people say, I want to live to 130, but they don't actually think about the quality of the life they're trying to live, as well.

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Jack Graham: So what's the disconnect there?

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Steven Rak: That's a loaded question, because there's so… we can talk for 3 hours about that.

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Steven Rak: Because it's not… the answer… the answer to your question is not one thing, right? No.

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Steven Rak: If you think about the Blue Zone specifically, food is a big component.

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Steven Rak: And to that end, A lot of these cultures that struggle

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Steven Rak: and, you know, we have an obesity epidemic in the United States, it's self-inflicted in that

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Steven Rak: we were solving for how do you get as much food as cost-effectively out, and as we industrialized and grew, we needed to solve for that. Well, the solves, unfortunately, were not the best for longevity and health, but they…

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Steven Rak: best for calorie intake, and that's what we were solving for. And so, we have…

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Steven Rak: very stringent regulations in the United States specifically.

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Steven Rak: For a lot of things, but we were very loose when it came to food, and how that food is packaged, and what does it mean when you're surrounded by plastic, and what does it mean when polymers are touching your skin all the time, and these are all endocrine disruptors, meaning your hormones go all over the place.

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Steven Rak: And…

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Steven Rak: you can't live a long, healthy life when you're eating junk. You're clogging your arteries, you're putting so much pressure on your cardiovascular system, you are fighting against your body. So.

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Steven Rak: Blue zones, you'll see a lot of similarity being a lot of raw.

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Steven Rak: fruits and vegetables, and, certainly some proteins that are not mass manufactured and wrapped in plastics. And, you know.

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Steven Rak: that's kind of one element of it, and you can, like I said, you and I can go very deep into that, and that is one of the things that we do wrong. Food, period. Okay, so you have food. The other thing is, I would say.

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Steven Rak: We, we… Have created a generation that stuck to their phones.

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Steven Rak: And the phones can be really entertaining, but how are you going… once again, blue zones, how are you going to get interaction and community and a sense of community and purpose and family?

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Steven Rak: when you're just… you're not interacting with other people, you're just scrolling on phones for 10-second videos that are hyper-engaging. Now…

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Steven Rak: I'm a victim to this. I'm not saying I'm perfect.

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Jack Graham: But…

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Steven Rak: We create a feedback loop of.

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Steven Rak: kind of minimizing human engagement and maximizing entertainment and isolation, that doesn't bode well. So, like, what are we doing wrong there, right? We're not…

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Steven Rak: investing in and prioritizing, as a society, human interaction, but rather technological, which takes away from this whole sense of community. In fact, it's quite depressing, right? Like, people

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Steven Rak: are seeing what someone else does and says, okay, well, I should be like that, instead of just creating real, meaningful relationships, they're sitting there wishing they had something they didn't because they're watching these videos. So, that's not great for your brain.

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Steven Rak: or your emotional health, period. Those are stressors, also.

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Steven Rak: So… You're automatically disadvantaging your body and brain.

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Steven Rak: These are, like, some of the concepts surrounding Blue Zones that people might focus in on.

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Steven Rak: That, you know, they continue to be very well studied that are very evident in what are we doing wrong.

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Steven Rak: If you could tackle some of these things, you know, if you… and then you start building in a bit of a healthy habit around

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Steven Rak: Sleep, and a bit of a healthy habit around Small levels of cardio.

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Steven Rak: No supplementation, you're already positioning yourself to

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Steven Rak: Live a longer, healthier life, and kind of extend that health span.

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Jack Graham: Yeah, I 100% agree with you on the food and the phone or entertainment addiction. Like, people are literally addicted to food. Like, there's no…

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Jack Graham: Like, it sucks, because the food is… and the manufacturers, like you said, the rules and regulations are just so loose, they can make it so addictive that people just can't stop. And then…

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Steven Rak: It's engineered to be addictive, right?

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Jack Graham: Yep. And then when it comes to your phones, the same thing, like, people, like, you jump on social media, they're designed to keep your attention, and keep you there. So, it seems like it's an attention thing, like, people's…

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Jack Graham: attention. So, again, like, you're somebody that obviously can see outside the box. You are creating something massive… well, you have created something massive, but how do you stay focused? Like, how do you not get sucked in? Like, how do you make sure that you're eating the right foods, not getting stuck on social media too much?

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Steven Rak: Are you asking that question, me as in Danny, or what would be my advice for others?

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Jack Graham: What would Danny do?

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Steven Rak: Yeah, I, like I said, food was really tough.

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Steven Rak: I have an addiction to food.

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Steven Rak: And… it ruled my life.

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Steven Rak: And so, I was the type of person, prior to starting GLP-1 therapy, where when I was eating a bite of something, it could be a pizza, or a burger, or whatever it was, I was already planning my next meal in my brain.

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Steven Rak: Okay, so it absolutely ruled my life. Now, I will say there are small and tangible pros, like my friends will reach out to me when it comes to food recommendations, I love that, but it's all derived from an addiction to food.

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Jack Graham: Hmm.

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Steven Rak: I will say GLP-1s, personally, have helped me regain my focus, not have these consistent cravings, and, you know, the way that it's worked on me and my brain is I got to a healthier weight, and my day wasn't ruled by food.

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Jack Graham: And I think they're a great tool. Like I said, like, these companies that… McDonald's spend, what, probably billions of dollars on their advertising to get you thinking about McDonald's all day long. So how can you compete with that? Like, you can't. So, I'd like to dive into the JLP-1s and just…

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Jack Graham: Or the hacks and that sort of stuff, instead of, you know, again, when you're taking some sort of JPR1, you should be exercising, working on the habits, all that sort of stuff, and not just relying on it.

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Steven Rak: You are 100% right. They are a catalyst and a tool, and not your only tool, and they shouldn't be your only tool. When you're taking a supplement, that doesn't mean that all of a sudden.

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Steven Rak: you can live off of 2 hours of sleep, or if you're taking a supplement, it doesn't mean that you can starve yourself, or you don't need a specific type of nutrient in your body. That's not how it works. It's a supplement, it's not your core.

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Steven Rak: And, hopefully gives people an opportunity to put their future, their life, and their health in their hands. But it should not be just, this is it, I'm using this, and now I'm going to be healthy. So, if that's what folks think.

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Jack Graham: Yeah, and I… I'd say most… again, most of my clients that use it come to that conclusion as well. So I… again, trying to get people aware of their body and health and mind, I do think it helps in that sense. So, you ask… you ask me what I do.

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Jack Graham: I sort of don't talk about what I do, because I'm… I guess I'm very fortunate on… I enjoy exercising. I actually enjoy cooking and eating healthy food.

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Jack Graham: But I thought I was doing the right things. Exercising, eating right, all that sort of stuff. What else can you do? And I lost connection with a lot of friends, family, all that sort of stuff, because I was working so hard, trying to do certain things.

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Jack Graham: It affects your whole body and mind.

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Steven Rak: demographic of customers that work with you, because it goes to stress and understanding what matters most, is you're very… they're very fortunate to have you looking after them and guiding them, and they're already kind of taking that first step, which is working with you and saying, I want to commit.

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Steven Rak: and routine lab work, because it helps you preventatively understand your deficiencies, as well as what… and abnormalities, right? That's kind of one aspect of this. Two is just thinking about your behavior, and being told to think about your behavior is very important.

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Steven Rak: If you're sleeping 3 hours a night, or inconsistently sleeping, that's going to be a stressor. And so, as you were saying, that contributes to stress levels, and you are on a downwards decline path. Your brain can't process, you are cutting years of your life, period.

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Steven Rak: intake of food, which, by the way, with Ready, as you're a customer or patient, you have access to unlimited nutritional plans that are optimized for you, but it's really having an ecosystem to talk through your circumstance, doctors, labs, and really assess the

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Steven Rak: the whole picture, and not just focus on little things. Like, I, once… when you focus on little things, that goes back to…

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Jack Graham: Like, when it comes to labs, all that sort of stuff, like, where should people… I guess, where should people start thinking about trying to improve their health?

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Steven Rak: So, I feel like we are so blessed to be living in this time period. It's such a unique time period, and I was on a podcast, and someone asked me, okay, where are we gonna be in, you know, 10 years? I said, you know, buddy, I don't know where we're going to be in 3 years, or 2 years. It's moving so quickly.

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Steven Rak: tracking all the… the labs was an example of tracking your health in a data-informed way, not a subjective way, right? So it's like, how do you get, like, real info… fundamentally real information about you that's personalized to you? That's not just…

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Steven Rak: to your point, the doctor's not going to see it, they might have not ordered an EKG, and so they wouldn't have known that you might have had something cardiovascularly, although,

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Steven Rak: that even old tech is becoming more cost-effective, and having it all be organized in a clean way, where all of your information's in one place, your labs, your watch data, or your phone data, your ring data, and having inputs where you can subjectively input, like, how you're feeling.

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Steven Rak: help inform decision making is the answer, and I want to say that we're there, but we're definitely going to be there in 3 to 6 months. And then, kind of the next

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Steven Rak: Right? This is the… if you ask me where… where do I see… what… what is the direction that I see things going from a supplementation or antiviral perspective? Think about the flu shot, okay? The flu shot…

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Steven Rak: everyone has to make a best guess as to which strings are gonna be most equivalent. We don't know.

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Steven Rak: We believe and we hope that these are the ones, and so by giving you this flu shot or vaccine, we're hoping that it's going to be one of these, and so you won't get sick.

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Steven Rak: That's not very, you know…

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Steven Rak: That's not a very programmatic way of doing it, but also that's kind of the best that we have. And so I think that we're moving in a direction where everything is going to be hyper-personalized to you, and, based on your genetic markers, your predispositions, and I'm very excited to be in the forefront of that.

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Steven Rak: To answer your question, though, I think that there's been an evolution about… with technology to help inform some decision-making and knowledge that might have not been around when you were 27.

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Steven Rak: I also… what I learned through healthcare is you have to advocate for yourself. If my wife said, you're right on the second time, then it's not… it's not a if, it is, with certainty, she would have died. It's… there's no question.

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Steven Rak: And so, if she didn't advocate… she learned through that experience that we must advocate for ourselves in the healthcare system, because she would have died

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Steven Rak: Undoubtedly, 100%, had she gone home that night.

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Jack Graham: Yeah, and that's scary. That's so scary.

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Steven Rak: It's scary. It's scary, but you have to stand up for yourself, and you have to say, no, I want to know why. No, I need to know why. No, like, I'm not leaving here until that happens. This kind of… no one else is going to fight that fight for you.

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Jack Graham: 100%, and it comes down to you paying attention to you. And I think you just touched on the perfect point of tracking. Like, you can't improve what you're not tracking, and that's what I get all my clients to do as well. So, whenever they're chasing a goal, okay, that's the goal. We need to track your progress so we know you're actually reaching that goal. It's a lot harder with health and wellness, because you can't, well.

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Jack Graham: As we might go into, you can't track it as well

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Jack Graham: Yet. But I think the more you start tracking now, and like you said, understanding your body now, and tracking it over time.

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Jack Graham: So…

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Steven Rak: 100% right. The more… the more data you feed a system, the more accurate and reliable it is. So, to the extent it's not giving you… you're not getting what you need.

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Steven Rak: Know that you're at least feeding your future health by effectively providing that data. There are more tools, though, that are fascinating. Have you ever tried a continuous glucose monitor?

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Steven Rak: Okay. It was very interesting, and anyone who's on GLP-1, I would urge you to try it before you get onto GLP-1, because, you know, effectively, the way that it works is it stabilizes your glucose, so you won't see these massive spikes.

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Steven Rak: Because it also plays into it, and you'll be surprised by what you think is healthy, and how much, like, an oatmeal, a certain type of oatmeal might spike your glucose. You might have a false perception of what healthy is, and you'll learn through your body that that might not be the case, or might not be the case for you.

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Steven Rak: bring my cortisol levels up, or make my heart race, and it was so evident to me that these things, or these conversations, or these habits, resulted… result in me living, like, an unhealthier life. And so you have data to inform better decision-making, even in your everyday communication. So…

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Jack Graham: And… And I… like, we've been touching on this whole time, like, not… you… a doctor can't give…

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Jack Graham: You know, or the flu shot. You can't just give a broad diagnosis to a bunch of people, because we're so individual, and everybody responds to different things in different ways.

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Steven Rak: This is exactly what you do for everyone, and it works, it's just, that's just not how our bodies are made.

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Jack Graham: Alright, so we… again, I think tracking is great for people. It gets people to pay attention as well. Just getting people to pay attention to these things is a big, like, you know…

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Jack Graham: a big step in the right direction. I think this is a good way to transition into ReadyRx, and how we can use that data to start improving our health and wellness and longevity.

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Jack Graham: So, what is ReadyRx?

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Steven Rak: fasting and autophagy, trying to minimize the likelihood potential of Alzheimer's through, you know, cold plunging and 20-minute sauna sessions. What were the biohacking things that we can do? So that was where this all started.

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Steven Rak: The natural progression as we got really involved and loved this concept of how do we live a longer, healthier life was, what supplementation is good for me? How do I get access to that?

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Steven Rak: And I don't know if they're as prevalent back home, but in the United States, we've had this big boom in IV drip or med spas or wellness clinics that do these drips.

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Steven Rak: And what we found was that was the best place to get some of these supplements in a way that our bodies could metabolize that were highly bioavailable.

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Steven Rak: Meaning, for all intents and hopefully not crude purposes, you don't just take a supplement that you pee out, right? Like, your body actually absorbs this.

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Steven Rak: What we learned, though, is these incredible, potentially life-extending.

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Steven Rak: And then what we learned was it's a completely unregulated field.

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Steven Rak: And they had no reason to have to tell us where they source their… their… any of their supplements from, because they're unregulated, so many of them source them at the lowest cost, and they come from, like, research, not for human use facilities, etc.

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Steven Rak: And… we were shocked.

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Steven Rak: FDA regulated, and have very stringent rules around lab testing, potency testing, and understanding the actual quality of what we're getting, because we wanted it for ourselves, so we designed this for ourselves.

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Steven Rak: But what we certainly realized with these pharmacies is that as we have economies of scale, we can pass on those economies of scales and benefits down to customers. So now, a therapy which a single session costs $1,200,

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Steven Rak: We partnered with a large national group of doctors who you get doctor access, doctor-prescribed therapies.

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Steven Rak: For a 95 plus percent discount to what you would get at a wellness spa, but these… you actually know where it's coming from, and they're tested, and it's high-potency product.

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Steven Rak: All of that engulfed with understanding that you might not know what you don't know, and that it can be lonely, and having that support and health coaching system

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Steven Rak: Training models for a long time, and really going into how we can take, and we are excited to be launching.

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Steven Rak: a composition of taking your labs and data from all of your devices to create a one-stop location where we help people understand their very specific needs in a data-informed decision-making way, reinforce those.

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Steven Rak: Give them access to doctors.

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Steven Rak: Fully transparent, and supplementation that works at a tremendous discount.

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Steven Rak: So, once again, it's a all-inclusive, healthy aging longevity program where we started off as our first customers.

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Jack Graham: And like I said at the start, I…

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Jack Graham: you're… because you're making it for yourself, and from your own experiences and passions, like, it works! Like, that… what you're saying, like, why don't we have that already? Like, it's so simple.

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Jack Graham: And, like, I can just tell that…

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Jack Graham: it is what it is, like, you know, there's no… again, like you said, all those other… I feel like Australia's about 5 years behind America with all the trends, so we are starting to get those places, and again, those IV drips, like, what are you getting in them? Like, what's in there? They don't have to tell you, you just go in and…

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Jack Graham: you're getting this drip, but… what is it? So, I can't wait for that to reach here as well.

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Jack Graham: I don't think it's quite 1,200, like, Aussie dollars, that would be almost 2 grand in Aussie dollars for us, in US dollars. It's not quite there. I think you can get them for around 500, depending on where you go. Again, like.

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Steven Rak: Yep.

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Jack Graham: You could probably pay more, and you'd think you're getting better, but you don't actually know.

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Steven Rak: That's exactly right. Yeah, it's fascinating that that was kind of what we fundamentally uncovered as a…

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Jack Graham: Hmm. So, how… you… you started as the first customers? Where are you at now?

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Jack Graham: How many customers?

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Steven Rak: We're surpassing We're over 10,000, but growing at a really remarkable pace. And, I would say that…

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Steven Rak: But you're feeling the benefits pretty quickly, and it is remarkable from a energy, depending on the, you know, supplementation, from an energy, muscle, general health.

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Steven Rak: But I think it speaks to the whole ecosystem that we built, and you have to tackle so many things, which is making sure that you're truly providing the highest quality of care and that you're supportive, ensuring that you're partnering with the right folks on the pharmacy side, but also the technology that goes into it is really complicated.

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Steven Rak: And that took many years to build out to ensure that we're creating systems to help cater a streamlined solution that services them in something that's medical supplementation, and medical doctor's visits, and

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Steven Rak: We are the harbingers and store all their information and data, and everything that goes into it is very complex, so…

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Steven Rak: I, I will say.

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Steven Rak: it feels very rewarding that we're now finally able to, as customers, not have to pay a tremendous premium and actually get the benefit that we're getting. So, there is a bit of a feedback loop.

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Jack Graham: Yeah. But 10,000 is a big…

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Jack Graham: number, especially when it comes to… again, I was talking to the researcher last week about MS, and her biggest struggle is getting data of people

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Jack Graham: And what they're doing. Where you're creating this system where you can start seeing trends and start helping people sooner. Like, before people actually start going down into bad health, you can prevent that. And the more data you get, the easier that becomes to predict and then prevent. So, is there any trends so far that you're seeing?

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Steven Rak: That's a great question. So first, and I would comment that it's like, month over month, we're seeing double-digit and sometimes triple-digit percentage growth, month over month, and so it snowballs.

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Jack Graham: Yeah, that's epic.

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Steven Rak: I think that… I think that I want to say that it's because we're incredible.

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Steven Rak: But I also think that we happen to be at the right place at the right time, where we were biohacking when it was not cool, and now it's, you know.

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Steven Rak: It's a verb, and people are just… are doing it, and you have

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Steven Rak: an acceptable practice, so we happen to be building a technology that services this at the right place at the right time. In terms of data, I would say that we're still early on in making real inferences, and I would question

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Steven Rak: I would question that because I really vehemently, strongly agree with you when we say that everyone's body is different, and when you're trying to make generalizations with data in large population pools, you're contradicting that sentiment.

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Steven Rak: Right? So I think that we're discovering best practices with dosing and things like that, and what is the optimal, perhaps, dosing, and how you get up to that dosing, and what's the right way to titrate. But I still want to

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Steven Rak: And once you start veering away from that, I think your whole culture and system is broken.

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Jack Graham: I love that, because it's 100% true.

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Jack Graham: So, you said biohacking. When you say biohacking, what are you talking about?

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Steven Rak: What's a day.

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Jack Graham: you know.

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Steven Rak: So it's interesting, it's evolved to mean so many things.

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Jack Graham: Hmm.

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Steven Rak: But, at a rudimentary sense, it's doing things that are not…

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Steven Rak: Culturally the norm, to help extend and live a longer, healthier life.

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Steven Rak: Alright.

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Steven Rak: I don't know if it falls into this anymore, but even the simplicity of doing a cold plunge once a week, and staying in there and forcing yourself for 4 to 5 minutes.

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Steven Rak: Which has, you know, been shown to help

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Steven Rak: minimize and reduce these senescent cells or dead cells in your body, which can cause cancer and cause inflammation and negative things. That…

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Steven Rak: is biohacking, because you don't sit there and, you know, our parents' generation wasn't saying, I'm going to go and sit in a cold plunge for 5 minutes because it's healthy for me. That wasn't, like.

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Steven Rak: the norm.

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Steven Rak: And so it really is a violation of the norm in an effort to

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Steven Rak: enhance a healthier aging process. So, biohacking, autophagy.

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Steven Rak: This concept of fasting for 18 plus hours, so that you're actually… it's not just purely calorie deficit that you're going for, but you're actually trying to get your body potentially in a state of ketosis, but get your body into a place where, once again, senescent cells, you're killing those out, and you're cleaning your body of all the

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Steven Rak: free radicals, which are the smog and toxins and plastics that we're taking in on a daily basis. But it certainly also means supplementation, specifically

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Steven Rak: catering towards

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Steven Rak: living longer, healthier life. So, what does that mean? It's looking at those specific coenzymes, or proteins, or,

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Steven Rak: Potentially cells that diminish as we age, right? And,

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Steven Rak: trying to supplement them, because as they diminish, that's what causes unhealthy aging, right? So, for example.

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Steven Rak: natural decline of glutathione, which is your body's master antioxidant, right?

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Steven Rak: It helps… think about it as a defensive linebacker that helps your body protect itself, and as it naturally declines, you enable yourself to certainly get more sick.

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Steven Rak: that… By the way, we call it biohacking. In Asian communities, they say they've drank

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Steven Rak: matcha, which is the biggest store of antioxidants, and, you know, other… glutathione is a common word for them. They've been taking glutathione supplementation for hundreds of years.

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Steven Rak: This is a biohacking concept, it's a healthy supplementation. Or, as our NAD levels decline, which they do, they, you know, reach about half as we get to around the age of 40, as they decline, you enable your body

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Steven Rak: to have more likely degradation of DNA, Your telomeres, which are these

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Steven Rak: things at the end of your DNA that hold it together begin to unravel more, and it's what causes

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Steven Rak: Illness and organ failure and mitochondrial depletion, so our ability to naturally create energy from food.

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Steven Rak: as the NAD levels decline. So, you know, I have this hat on, I don't just wear the hat, I actually take NAD, I love it, it creates… it gives me, like, clarity of mind tremendously, but furthermore.

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Steven Rak: I, you know…

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Steven Rak: I get energy from it. It's a natural source of energy, and I hope that as I take it and continue… and by the way, it has a short half-life when taken as… it's a more immediate solution when you take it as an IV or an injection, but it has a short half-life, so it's not something that you can take for a week and say, I've done an NAD therapy. No, you have to be consistent with it, just with every supplementation. So.

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Steven Rak: I want to dispel anyone who thinks, I take NAD once, I'm so good. That's just not how it works. But that's true for all supplementation.

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Steven Rak: It's about consistency.

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Steven Rak: As with any things in life, that's biohacking. So, I mean, in theory, GLP-1s, right? Peptides,

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Steven Rak: short-form proteins, that's biohacking. And so it's… how do you…

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Steven Rak: Build healthy habits, and also healthy supplementation or meds to help

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Steven Rak: Channel that, and complement that with better living habits.

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Steven Rak: Right? Like, working out, eating well, sleeping, getting enough hydration.

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Steven Rak: How do you use this whole package to help you age in a healthy way?

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Steven Rak: That's it.

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Jack Graham: But again, like, it's so simple, and it's how it should be, but we have to put some sort of label on it to make it seem so interesting, but…

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Jack Graham: You're right. You're right. Like I said, Australia's behind, generally, with the trends in America a couple of years, so can you talk about NAD Plus and peptides?

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Steven Rak: Sure. NAD plus is not, it's a coenzyme. Glutathione technically is a peptide,

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Steven Rak: They're not… so, all of these things are… why is it called supplementation?

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Steven Rak: they're naturally occurring in your body, it's not synthetically plugging yourself with, like, steroids, right? It is actually just supplementing a lack or minimization of natural production of something to ensure that you best enable your body to

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Steven Rak: Take on aging.

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Steven Rak: NAD+, once again, is a coenzyme, and in the body, effectively, it helps turn The food that you take.

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Steven Rak: alongside your mitochondria into energy production. And as it depletes, it effectively is what is responsible for what we know to be aging, which is organ failure and DNA damage.

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Steven Rak: And, the likelihood of free radicals to impact your body. And so, as it declines, which it naturally does, you are essentially opening the door

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Steven Rak: for… what you commonly think about as aging. And so, as we supplement it, you try to minimize

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Steven Rak: You're closing the door ever so slightly to ensure that less of that bad stuff comes in. That would be the best way to describe NAD, but before I'll move on to peptides of any sort, I'll pause and answer any question you have on NAD.

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Jack Graham: Yeah, I… I sort of use the analogy of, like, as you get older, you can't absorb nutrients as well, so…

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Jack Graham: You know, this just helps you absorb those nutrients, so you just don't get

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Jack Graham: As, you know, deteriorate as fast, because again, like you said, protein's very important.

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Jack Graham: As you get older, you can't absorb protein as well, so I'm assuming it just helps in that process of just absorbing what you need.

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Steven Rak: It does in many ways, but it's also… the key thing to think about here is

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Steven Rak: your body, as we age naturally, stops being able to produce these things naturally. So that's the decline, right, is.

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Jack Graham: Yeah.

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Steven Rak: As you have these natural proteins in your body, or molecules, or immunocells.

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Steven Rak: They deplete because your body produces, produces, produces.

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Steven Rak: But then it stops producing at the same amount or velocity that it used to, and so it starts go… your, like, baseline levels just start going down, and as they start going down, everything doesn't work quite as well, including taking in energy.

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Steven Rak: defending against illness, organ function, so forth. So it's just as we age that these levels, these baselines, our bodies just can't produce them, and that's the supplementation goal, right? It's to help offset our body's inability to potentially naturally produce these things and give it that boost.

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Jack Graham: Yeah, definitely. Makes sense. So, this might lead into peptides as well. How should people think about taking NAD Plus? Because again, like.

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Jack Graham: being on social media, you start looking into it, you just get bombarded with different ways you can supplement it. Pills, injectables, IVs, all that sort of stuff. Like, how should we think about taking them?

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Steven Rak: I'm… it's a great question.

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Steven Rak: You… so NAD+, specifically, you cannot take orally.

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Steven Rak: The molecule is too large, your body can't metabolize it.

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Steven Rak: So… It's… it won't work. Period.

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Steven Rak: The oral pills, in theory, where there's certainly some education that suggests they can help with NAD plus levels, are precursors to NAD+, so they're smaller amino acid chains. Those are NR and NMN,

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Steven Rak: And the thought process is they're smaller, I'll take it orally because my body can metabolize it more and absorb it, and hopefully, by doing that, the precursors help your body naturally, potentially.

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Steven Rak: produce more NAD+. And there's certainly some studies that point to that that may be possible, but as we age, it might not be, and you're not getting NAD+, you're helping your body

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Steven Rak: stimulate the potential of its natural production of NA+. That's what the oral is, if you're taking an NR or NMN supplement.

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Steven Rak: if you're taking an NAD plus supplement, you're just kind of taking sugar. Like, it's not gonna work, right? It can't… it's… you cannot absorb it.

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Steven Rak: So that's the precursors. And then from an injection perspective, because you can pass you know, metabolic…

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Steven Rak: In an injection, you actually are creating intracellular ability, so at the cell level and systemically.

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Steven Rak: to get the actual NAD+. So you're not now stimulating natural production, but you're getting this NAD+. So you're getting an immediate feeling. So when you take NR, NMN, you never have that, oh wow, feeling. But if you take an NAD plus injection, or IV,

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Steven Rak: you're kind of… you get a rush. And what does that feel like or look like in practice? I'm the type of person who, in the morning.

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Steven Rak: I have a really tough… I'm not a morning person.

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Jack Graham: I have a tough time.

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Steven Rak: The alarm, I'm snoozing.

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Steven Rak: it's not a great exercise. It's not fun to be around.

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Steven Rak: when you're taking this, you're waking up before your alarm. You're just energized, ready to go. It's pretty phenomenal. There are tremendous skin benefits that people experience very early on in their treatments.

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Steven Rak: you do have to, as I said, take it the optimal. Ideally, you're taking it twice a week, spread out across 3 days. Half-life is about 7 days, and so that's, you know, you kind of do it every 3 days at a tolerant dose, so on the highest end.

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Steven Rak: it's about 100 milligrams that you'd be taking. But you do it consistently to continue supplementing, and that's how you get the actual NAD plus into your body, as opposed to a precursor where the hope and goal is that your body naturally stimulates production of it as we age.

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Jack Graham: And I'm assuming that's the same with peptides, because again, I see peptide tablets on social media advertised all the time.

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Steven Rak: I will say it's true for a very large majority of supplements.

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Steven Rak: that…

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Steven Rak: there is a lot of education to be made about how bioavailable they are, and how much, you actually absorb. That's why, if you think about a lot of these supplements, you have to dose crazy amounts, because you have to expect that you're getting a single percentage of that to actually

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Steven Rak: hit your body, right, and to absorb properly.

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Steven Rak: Sub-10%, depending on… there's some that are more bioavailable, but that's why they have these massive milligrams when you're doing oral supplementation.

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Steven Rak: Generally speaking, things are just bio… more bioavailable when you're doing it, you know, intranasally, although it's more focused on the brain and protective components of the brain, or

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Steven Rak: some… there are some modalities orally called… I don't know if you're familiar with the concept of a trochee, which is kind of like a lozenge that you put under the tongue and it dissolves, so it bypasses the liver, it metabolizes at a higher rate, but these oral supplements

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Steven Rak: There are better ways to get supplementation, and as injectable and other modalities are becoming more cost-effective, certainly is

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Steven Rak: The way to ensure that your body's getting the benefit of that supplementation.

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Jack Graham: Hmm.

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Jack Graham: Educate us on peptides. I'm not sure where the states are with peptides, but here it seems to be the Wild West, so it's… you can't get them legally.

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Jack Graham: So, you have to go through dodgy sources to get them, and then again, like, what are you actually getting? So, when it comes to peptides, what are they, and how should we think about getting them?

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Steven Rak: Okay. The concept fundamentally is there…

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Steven Rak: Proteins and short chains of proteins that naturally occur in your body.

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Steven Rak: That's why the premise is, in theory, they should be safe.

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Steven Rak: Right? They are the safest of…

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Steven Rak: the foreign… they're non-synthetic medications, right, or supplements. Now.

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Steven Rak: I'm a big proponent of peptide therapies for targeted, specific purposes, but you're not wrong that we've had a lot outlawed, and what people are doing in the States is using

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Steven Rak: They're buying things on the black market that say.

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Steven Rak: Not for human consumption on the bottle.

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Steven Rak: And you have no idea where it's coming from, which is super scary as you're about to inject something into your body that says this is not for human use, and it's not coming from a regulated facility.

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Steven Rak: our FDA,

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Steven Rak: would create a safer environment if they just regulated it in a better way, as opposed to pushing people to products that they really want in a black market, which is unsafe. That's my perspective, right? That might be a hot take, that's my perspective, but they all serve different purposes, and some serve, like, for example.

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Steven Rak: when I felt as though I was losing muscle mass, even though I was eating

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Steven Rak: the right amount of protein, but maybe I wasn't lifting sufficient weights. I got on one of our peptides, which is called surmoralin, and that is a peptide that naturally stimulates the pituitary gland to release growth hormone.

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Steven Rak: And so what that helps do is minimize and melt your visceral fat and recomposition to produce, not at a steroidal level, but a natural level, growth hormone for muscle mass and muscle retention. That was an incredible experience. I slept better.

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Steven Rak: So, there are… they're targeted to do different things. There are… Many, many of them.

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Steven Rak: One that is tremendously common, but it's injectable, and other modality forms are banned… were banned in the last two years by the FDA in the United States as BPC157, and I want to speak to the banning, and at least

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Steven Rak: to the benefit of the FDA why they're doing it. Like, why they think it's a good thing to ban it, and push people, perhaps, to use black market, places.

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Steven Rak: That, peptide very clearly has been shown in animal studies to help repair injury.

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Steven Rak: So, for athletes who tear muscles, what have you, it helps stimulate blood flow.

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Steven Rak: To help repair very bad injuries.

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Steven Rak: Now, the FDA's perspective, and it's tough to argue that, is

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Steven Rak: The problem is, you don't know if you have a tumor in your body.

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Steven Rak: And BPC works indiscriminately. And so, this blood flow, red blood flow that it stimulates, can also help accelerate the growth of a tumor in a pretty negative way, and so we're scared. So, at no point did they say, it doesn't work. Their concern was the potential

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Steven Rak: cancerous growth components of it. But it's very clear that in the United States.

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Steven Rak: people just don't care. Like, you can go on any magazine and you see they're talking about it, and the only way to get it is black market and not for human use consumption. People don't care because it actually is a biohack, right? If you need to recover quicker or you're injured.

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Steven Rak: It can really accelerate healing, so it serves a really…

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Steven Rak: good purpose, and I wish that we get sooner rather than later to a place where, instead of pushing people to use it

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Steven Rak: In places that are unregulated and unsafe.

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Steven Rak: We actually just put some regulation around it.

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Steven Rak: So, they're… yeah, full circle. These peptides naturally occur in your body.

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Steven Rak: And what they do is very targeted, and so we can, you know, we can create a map of all the different benefits you can get. For example, GLP-1s are peptides that essentially

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Steven Rak: bind… well, and you have GLP-1s, and then you have terzepatide, which is a dual agonist with a GIP as well, but GLP-1s bind to your glucagon receptors in your brain.

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Steven Rak: So that feeling of satiety comes through, right? So I feel content… now, what is incredible is it's not specific, like, for me, it was…

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Steven Rak: Food addiction, but they're seeing it with alcoholism, and sports gambling, and just any form of addiction.

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Steven Rak: And what they saw was

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Steven Rak: for a very large study, I think it was, like, 200,000 vets that had been overweight.

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Steven Rak: a reduction from GLP-1 usage of pre-colorectal cancer, Alzheimer's, dementia, like, so many benefits to it.

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Steven Rak: And as you think about weight and its impact on your body and inflammatory.

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Steven Rak: It's fantastic in so many ways, if used properly. So, all of these peptides are stimulating

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Steven Rak: Things that naturally occur in your body.

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Steven Rak: to help… Biohack, for all intents and purposes, on a specific

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Steven Rak: Outcome that you're looking to accomplish.

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Jack Graham: Yeah,

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Jack Graham: Again, so, there's a lot of, I guess, people talking about peptides and all that sort of stuff.

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Jack Graham: because they take them, they get certain results, and they're like, hey, take this, because you're gonna get that as well. But it doesn't necessarily work in that way, does it? Because, again, we're so individual. But just because it worked…

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Steven Rak: dosing.

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Steven Rak: And the dosing, it's very individual.

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Jack Graham: Like, for example.

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Steven Rak: I was on the lowest dose, and GLP-1 worked wonderfully for me.

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Steven Rak: I… there's a…

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Steven Rak: I can tell you how many people I know that they don't feel anything on the lowest dose, and they say, well, this thing doesn't work, and then they move up a dose, and they say, oh my god.

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Steven Rak: Right? And there's no rhyme or reason for

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Steven Rak: Like, it's not like a specific demographic or anything, it's just very personal. And so I would be very… if you're saying this, I'd be very cautious to be saying, use this peptide, and this is how you should take it, and just because I do it that way. If that's what you're saying, then I agree with you. That's not how it should be done.

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Jack Graham: And I guess…

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Steven Rak: I think…

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Steven Rak: How are you seeing it? Are you saying just people advertising it and say, take it, this is how I do it?

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Jack Graham: Yeah, I think it's very similar attitudes here. Like, people just don't really care where they get it from, they care about the results that it may give them, which is, again, scary.

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Jack Graham: Because, like, why are you chasing those results, and why do you need to change or put something in your body to get those? I guess that's a whole other conversation of, you know, why people are doing things, and what they're chasing.

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Jack Graham: Bye.

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Jack Graham: obviously in the health and fitness industry… gym industry, I guess you could say. It's very…

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Jack Graham: Very vain, and people think that changing their body and getting your body to look a certain way is going to all of a sudden give you millions of dollars, all the girls, and all the fame, but when you actually get it, it doesn't actually give you anything, other than probably less of all that, because you've spent so much time in the gym.

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Steven Rak: It's funny, because it's that you're 100% right, that's the incentive and the motive, oftentimes, and the byproduct is you're actually getting healthier, which is nice. So, for me, the way I think about it is, I don't care if that's what gets you to the gym, so long as you get to the gym,

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Steven Rak: you know, Hopefully, you can level set and be real about your expectations, but anything to get them

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Steven Rak: To re… like, rewire your brain to live a longer, healthier life.

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Steven Rak: I think that's a little bit of the struggle, is you're really trying to effectuate

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Steven Rak: change, behavioral change, that's the most difficult. And how do you reinforce that?

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Steven Rak: Because if you told someone, hey, go to the gym.

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Steven Rak: You're not gonna see immediate results, but in 10 or 20 years, you're, like, I promise you, you're gonna be more in shape, you're gonna be more fit and physically active than your friends.

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Steven Rak: You can understand why people are creatures of immediacy.

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Steven Rak: Which I think is why, also, there's this proliferation around the peptides, is because there's a belief that

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Steven Rak: It's a shortcut.

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Jack Graham: Hmm.

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Steven Rak: And accelerate certain, kind of, outcomes.

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Jack Graham: But my understanding, it's not, is it? Like, you still need to be doing all the right things. You can't just take this one supplement and mask all the other things. Like, you need to be doing everything right, and that just helps you get there faster.

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Steven Rak: It's a catalyst.

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Jack Graham: Yep.

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Steven Rak: Correct.

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Jack Graham: Yeah, touching on what you said about the 20 years' time, I've been trying to think of a way to

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Jack Graham: I guess maybe that's what we can do with… or what you can do with ReadyRx in the future, but just getting people to have that snapshot of what they're gonna be in 20 years. I was talking to a previous guests about investing, like, investing is kind of…

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Jack Graham: Like, you can invest a dollar, and then tomorrow it's two, and all that sort of stuff, and you can see that compounding interest over a week, month, year, all that sort of stuff, but you can't see that compounding interest on your health and wellness, and your longevity.

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Jack Graham: Yet. I guess.

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Steven Rak: Yeah, well, it actually works just like

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Steven Rak: investing, right? And, you know, Einstein stated that

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Steven Rak: The most powerful force of nature is compounding.

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Steven Rak: And so, you see it in Warren Buffett and Berkshire Hathaway, but, you know, they didn't get to where they are in a 10-year period. It's by continuing to roll their profits and growing. It's the same thing with health, right? I do think that as you start to see your peers naturally degrading and declining, but you feel better, you do get that feedback loop. It just takes time, just like

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Steven Rak: investing, compounding, it's really small in the first couple of years. Oh, I'm only making $10 of interest. Oh, I'm only making $100 of interest. But then you reinvest that.

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Steven Rak: And it snowballs. And 10 years later, you see that really start to accelerate in a material way. Same thing, I think you… it's an eloquent and very well-put analogy.

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Jack Graham: Hmm.

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Jack Graham: So, talk about the future of ReadyRx. What can we expect? Like, what are you excited about?

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Steven Rak: I'm… I'm very excited about

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Steven Rak: personalized, hyper-dedicated treatments that are, you know, based on your specific labs and blood panels and data. I still think that from an AI perspective and where we stand.

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Steven Rak: We're probably a couple years away from that. We also are…

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Steven Rak: Have to acknowledge the regulatory constraints surrounding that, and what that looks like.

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Steven Rak: We've always been of the opinion that these peptides, for example, that are bound, that are banned.

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Steven Rak: While we might think that they have a benefit to them.

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Steven Rak: we don't support, not for human consumption, peptides or medications, so you can't get them through ReadyRx, and we won't comment on them in, you know, our doctors definitely won't.

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Steven Rak: I'm hopeful that peptide therapy.

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Steven Rak: gets rolled back in the United States from a regulatory perspective, where we start enabling

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Steven Rak: regulated use of it. I think there will be a proliferation of hyper-targeted… step one is hyper-targeted peptide therapies, then it's just personalized. And enhancing our overall team, I think, surrounding using data, taking that data in, and creating that feedback loop.

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Steven Rak: what we're doing today, I feel so excited about with, offering a very accessible.

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Steven Rak: High-quality and potent set of therapies with a tremendously incredible support team that's here for every single one of our customers.

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Steven Rak: you know, high-quality doctor care, I think that we're on the right path, and I couldn't be more excited. I think culturally, what we're doing is really important, and I hope that continues to snowball, which is making being healthy cool again.

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Steven Rak: and all of the habits that are involved in that. And if we have to incentivize that from a monetary perspective within our ecosystem, best believe we'll do that. But I want to help people feel supported

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Steven Rak: Help them not feel alone, and really, really build a culture around being healthy, as a standard.

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Jack Graham: I'm excited for that as well. Again, that sounds so amazing. Especially when it comes to the JRP1s. Again, doctors generally hand them out here, like, you go in, you can get them quite easily, but there's no support, there's no ongoing education. It's just, here's this, here's how to do it, good luck, sort of thing.

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Jack Graham: And again, that's probably no… like, the doctors just know what they know. They… they don't know the rest, sort of the community, all that sort of stuff, so…

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Jack Graham: I can't wait until, yeah, ReadyRx sort of catches on into that industry and can help people like that. I think it'll completely change

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Jack Graham: The way people are, like, struggling with addictions, like food and all that sort of stuff.

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Steven Rak: And just to be clear, right now, you can, as a customer, come into ReadyRx.

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Steven Rak: choose to pursue a GLP-1 therapy, talk to a doctor, have unlimited access to a doctor, and already get not only nutrition customized support, but we have health coaches there, we have support groups active. This is live. This is not something that we are

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Steven Rak: building, it's something that's already there and has been, I think, a big reason why people continue to trust us, is that we are

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Steven Rak: we're human, we acknowledge that you're human, and we want to be there for you. So, that aspect of it is live, and I think that it's one of those things that when I hear people joining the support groups, or hear people asking questions, and hear that we can be of help, it's a heartwarming experience.

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Steven Rak: Because it's, like I said, it can be very lonely, and just having a prescription is not it. And scrolling through TikTok or Googling what are best practices is not it.

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Jack Graham: Nope.

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Jack Graham: And like I said at the start, your authenticity with what you're creating is just coming through, and I think that's why it is growing so fast, and you are so successful for it.

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Jack Graham: Alright, I've taken up a lot of your time, but I'm gonna ask one more question.

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Jack Graham: If you had complete control over every

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Jack Graham: person in the US, and you had to get them to do one practical thing every day. So, not just sit there and think about something, but actually get them active and do one single thing.

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Jack Graham: What would you get every single person to do?

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Steven Rak: Sleep at least seven and a half hours a day.

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Steven Rak: It is the, and try to do so in a capacity where you have a stabilized lower.

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Steven Rak: heart rate. And so you do that by not stimulating yourself as you go to bed, you're not

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Steven Rak: reading your, you know, report that's on your computer with blue light being limited, you know, in your face. You're not,

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Steven Rak: scrolling through TikTok or Instagram, right before you go to bed, and generally you're eating at least 3 to 4 hours before you go to sleep, so that your body can actually digest the food, and that results in a lower,

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Steven Rak: resting heart rate, and then sleeping for 7 to 8 hours a day. I think that one single habit reduces so much

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Steven Rak: stress on the mind and body that just innate… and you reduce your hormone spikes of, like, ghrelin, of wanting to eat all the time. There's such a big feedback loop around sleeping well, and the things that lead up to sleeping well. If you just changed one thing.

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Steven Rak: your biohack, that's it. That's the one thing.

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Jack Graham: Yeah, and it's just getting better at sleep, and it is a biohack. It will help you live a long, healthy, happy life.

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Steven Rak: Period. Full stop.

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Jack Graham: Love it, Danny. Where can people find more about you and ReadyRx?

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Steven Rak: Yeah, ReadyRx.com, R-E-A-D-Y-R-X dot com. You can see everything that you might want to know about us there, all of our treatments, and of course, Instagram, at GetReadyRx, TikTok, ReadyRx.

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Steven Rak: We have a dedicated team to talk to you whenever you guys want, even before you're a patient or a customer. And…

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Steven Rak: Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it.

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Jack Graham: Thanks again, Denny. I appreciate you and your time, and sharing your stories.

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Steven Rak: Thank you, man.

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Jack Graham: That was great. Thanks, Danny.

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Steven Rak: Awesome, man. Yeah, no, I had so much fun. That was such a good conversation.

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Jack Graham: Yeah, yeah.

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Steven Rak: So… so we'll try to figure out for the All In Summit, like, how to do an Italian cook-off when you come for that.

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Steven Rak: I would very much enjoy that, because I also… my wife and I love Italian food, and cooking it. I'm told to stay away from the kitchen, because apparently I make a horrid mess, although I think the food I make is good, so she generally controls that environment for nothing more than I'm too messy, apparently.

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Steven Rak: That's what I was gonna say, that's…

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Jack Graham: That's half the journey, isn't it? Making a big mess?

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Steven Rak: I think so, too. Apparently, I'm not as good at cleaning it up. Maybe that's what it is.

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Steven Rak: But let's definitely sync up. We'll definitely be at the All In Summit. To the extent that you come out sooner, would love to see you, and 100% stay in touch. I'll pass it off to Steven here. But it was…

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Steven Rak: So, so awesome to talk to you, Jack.

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Jack Graham: No, thank you, Denny. That was great.

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Steven Rak: Thank you, man.